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		<title>Muslim women driving, and contrasts on niqab</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#8217;t watch the Muslim Driving School programme, which was on BBC2 last Tuesday (at the right time to clash with Defamation, which I reviewed in my last entry), but I finally got round to seeing it just now, and I was pleasantly surprised. It was all shown in the north of England around Manchester, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t watch the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00q09t9">Muslim Driving School</a> programme, which was on BBC2 last Tuesday (at the right time to clash with Defamation, which I reviewed in my last entry), but I finally got round to seeing it just now, and I was pleasantly surprised.  It was all shown in the north of England around Manchester, so it reflected a certain type of British Islam, but there were a variety of ages of women and they were not all Asian.  There was one lady who was said to have immigrated as a newlywed at the age of 13 (13? To the UK?) and now had to learn to drive because her former taxi-driver husband was increasingly ill and unable to work, a Mum in her late 30s who had to take her kids to school, and a convert in niqab who was competing with her husband as to who&#8217;d learn to drive first.  One of the instructors was an Asian male local imam (Deenporters tell us that he is with Minhaj-ul-Qur&#8217;an) and the other was an Asian niqabi in her 30s.  In the UK, you can see it until Tuesday on iPlayer.</p>

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<p>I must admit that I groaned when I heard of the whole concept behind this programme.  In Islam itself, there is no issue with women driving, and it is legal in almost all the Muslim world even if fewer women drive than men.  Speaking as a convert, I wouldn&#8217;t even think of stopping any wife or daughter of mine from driving or learning to drive; particularly if we have a long drive, or there&#8217;s an emergency, it makes sense to have more than one driver in the family.  However, there are some very conservative men who think they should drive and women shouldn&#8217;t, and perhaps this stopped many women learning in the more conservative communities in the north.  The male instructor said that the proportion of female customers had risen dramatically in the last decade or so.</p>

<p>There were a few seconds of footage of the imam/instructor frantically instructing one of the ladies on what pedal to push, but the most interesting part was the story of Aisha, formerly Stacey, who had converted a week after meeting the niqabi instructor, after working with the latter&#8217;s husband on a car wash.  She eventually went to Pakistan and brought back husband Naseem, with whom they had a son.  Her father was unruffled by her choice of dress although she was afraid to show it to her mother, who disliked her conversion entirely.  Both women wore it of their own choice for religious piety, but Aisha also wanted to distance herself from her old friends, who would encourage her back to her old life of drink and drugs.  I hope we see more of these ladies&#8217; progress in part two, not only in the driving but also in Aisha&#8217;s reunion with her mother.</p>

<p>One irksome thing I saw in this programme was Imam Ramazan telling the camera that there was &#8220;nothing in the Qur&#8217;an&#8221; that says women can&#8217;t learn to drive.  That was actually the second time today I&#8217;d heard that line, because Nigel Farage of UKIP, which has proposed to ban the niqab, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8464124.stm">used the same excuse</a> on Salma Yaqoob on the Politics Show this afternoon, repeatedly demanding that she answer, &#8220;is it in the Qur&#8217;an&#8221;.  And it&#8217;s not, but the fact is that the Qur&#8217;an is not the only source of Islamic law, so &#8220;it&#8217;s not in the Qur&#8217;an&#8221; is not a valid argument.  The Qur&#8217;an is not the Bible and isn&#8217;t some sort of encyclopaedic, quick-reference lawbook.  It is a source of guidance to the ordinary Muslim but not a ready source of law.</p>

<p>Farage and Salma Yaqoob were interviewed after a clip of a very well-spoken and pleasant lady in what looked like east London in niqab (and not with a long black abaya but with a colourful scarf and very western-looking other clothes) explaining why she wore the veil (you can watch the programme on <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00q3d5y/The_Politics_Show_London_17_01_2010/">iPlayer</a> if you are in the UK).  She said that, if security is the issue, women already remove their veils in such circumstances.  Farage compared the covering of the face to wearing balaclavas on the District Line or motorcycle helmets in a bank.  Of course, such helmets have to be removed because they are the favourite disguise of bank robbers, but that does not prevent anyone wearing them in the street.  Niqabs are not currently banned in banks because robberies by niqabis are currently not known to be a problem in this country.</p>

<p>Farage&#8217;s reasoning was typical of this kind of bigotry, jumping from argument to argument and drawing connections where there are none:</p>

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  <p>What we are saying is, this is a symbol.  It is a symbol of something that is used to oppress women, it is a symbol of an increasingly divided Britain, and the real worry, and it isn&#8217;t just about what people wear; the real worry is we&#8217;re heading towards a situation where many of our cities are ghettoised, and there&#8217;s even talk of Shari&#8217;ah law becoming part of British culture.  That&#8217;s a real worry.</p>
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<p>How many red herrings can you squeeze into a single sentence?  My own experience is that, outside places like the Edgware Road where there are a lot of Arab ex-pats, niqabis are more likely to be young, and modern in their outlook, than many Asian women who wear a loose head-wrap (or none) and shalwar-kameez.  They are more likely to speak English, for one thing.  He has thrown out an assumption that the niqab is oppressive to women without considering the opinions of women who wear it <em>in this country</em>, which is what is relevant, as opposed to the supposed oppressed masses in Saudi, Yemen etc., who are forced to wear it against their will.  The places in this country which are ghettoised have been for years, and it predates the popularity of niqaab by many decades, but even so, that is no bad thing in my opinion; it provides a safe space for Muslims (or any other minority) to be themselves and see people like them every day, which is what suburban whites like myself enjoy all the time.  As for Shari&#8217;ah law, that is an utter falsehood, and irrelevant to the matter of niqaab.</p>

<p>He also claimed that it would be difficult to identify who the woman in the clip they showed was.  In my opinion, that was a very distinctive way of wearing the niqab as long black abayas are much more common.  She would stick out a mile in a crowd of women wearing every other type of recognisably Muslim dress.</p>

<p>This is pretty typical of UKIP&#8217;s nasty politics: they are trying to appeal to a slightly higher class of voters than those who would otherwise vote BNP, but are just as bigoted as they are.  People who claim &#8220;niqaab oppresses women&#8221;, and for that matter those who say the same about the plain headscarf, repeat this claim without bothering to listen to the women who wear it, and tirelessly call it the &#8220;burka&#8221;, a term Muslims in the UK never use anyway, and talk of Muslim women wearing &#8220;sackcloth&#8221; and other untruths.  They feign concern for Muslim women, but conveniently forget about women like Stacey/Aisha, for whom niqab works (at least, in places where it&#8217;s common) as a way of cutting herself off from &#8220;friends&#8221; who only want to share drugs with her.  While it&#8217;s true that some Muslims do isolate themselves from others, such groups are usually no more threatening than Haredi Jews or the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, and for all people talk to each other while out and about, particularly in London, we might as well all wear niqab.  Niqab is not a real issue; it&#8217;s something that causes some people momentary annoyance, and that is no reason to ban it.</p>
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		<title>Make them Muslim</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;But You Have to Tell them&#8221; &#171; Ginny&#8217;s Thoughts &#38; Things Ginny on one of my pet hates about dealing with (some) born Muslims: those who think any convert can easily &#8220;make someone Muslim&#8221;, and expect us to start preaching Islam as soon as we convert even though they may never have done any such [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title = "&#8220;But You Have to Tell them&#8221; &laquo; Ginny's Thoughts &amp; Things" href="http://ginnysthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/but-you-have-to-tell-them/">&#8220;But You Have to Tell them&#8221; &laquo; Ginny&#8217;s Thoughts &amp; Things</a></p>

<p>Ginny on one of my pet hates about dealing with (some) born Muslims: those who think any convert can easily &#8220;make someone Muslim&#8221;, and expect us to start preaching Islam as soon as we convert even though they may never have done any such thing themselves, and have never been in the situation some of us are in.  I touched on this in my <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/16/white_privilege_and_the_white_convert">White Privilege post</a> back in May; I wrote that I had even had restaurant staff try to get me to marry one of their waitresses and &#8220;make her Muslim&#8221;, something they would never ask of someone from their own background.</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s in a Muslim name?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you change your name when you converted? I did what I suspect most did: adopted a Muslim name to use with my Muslim friends, and kept my old one to use with everyone else. It helped that my middle name was (or rather, is still) Joseph, a name with a very convenient Islamic - [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you change your name when you converted?  I did what I suspect most did: adopted a Muslim name to use with my Muslim friends, and kept my old one to use with everyone else.  It helped that my middle name was (or rather, is still) Joseph, a name with a very convenient Islamic - that is to say Arabic - equivalent, namely Yusuf.  My conversion certificate says Mohammad Yusuf, a name given to me by a total stranger whose name I&#8217;ve long since forgotten who happened to be there when I took the shahada in front of Qasim Rashid Ahmad, the then imam of Croydon mosque and two brothers down from Dewsbury with the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at.  I haven&#8217;t used Mohammad in some time; I generally call myself either Matthew Smith or Yusuf Smith.</p>

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<p>Sister Ify, who runs the blog Muslim Apple, also <a href="http://muslimapple.com/2009/06/06/whats-in-a-name/">changed her name back</a> a few years ago, or rather, stopped using the name Zainab, which she says was given to her by some guy she met on a bus, who told her it was his little sister&#8217;s name and that she reminded him of her.  She <a href="http://muslimapple.com/2006/10/03/convert-name-change-back/">found it</a> &#8220;strange, impractical, and uncomfortable to use two names, one name in the Muslim community and another name outside of the community&#8221;, a situation with which I can empathise.  I have sometimes been asked whether someone should call me Matthew or Yusuf, and a few Muslims I have come across had no concept of a double name, which is the norm in the west.  They assumed that Yusuf must have been my father&#8217;s name (it&#8217;s not).  A newspaper once refused to publish a letter with one of my names in brackets; since then, I have always submitted them as plain Matthew J Smith.  My Facebook friends, Muslim or otherwise, know me as Matthew.</p>

<p>The problem is that the name Matthew is nowhere recognised as a Muslim name, and on the first day I converted, I gave my name as Matthew and was immediately presumed a non-Muslim.  The name does appear in the Qur&#8217;an as Matta, the father of the prophet Yunus (known to Christians as Jonah, peace be upon him), and the Jewish version is Amittai, but the name is commonly associated with one of the four closest companions of Jesus (peace be upon him).  Ify <a href="http://muslimapple.com/2009/06/06/whats-in-a-name/#comment-14127">told me</a> that the name means a gift from God and that there was nothing particularly tying it to Christianity, but the fact is that it is widely regarded as a Christian name.  I have never heard of a Muslim with that name who was not a western convert and did not have an adopted Muslim name.</p>

<p>The problem of converts being bullied into changing their names is a well-known one, although some converts are in fact more than willing to do so.  The general ruling is that changing the name is only mandatory when the old name is inherently anti-Islamic, the name of a well-known Californian female tennis player (with a younger sister who is also a tennis player) being a well-known example.  Most of the Sahaba did not have to change their names, and most of the Arabic names commonly presumed to be &#8220;Islamic&#8221; in fact predate Islam.  Some of them are not even Arabic: the name Fairuz, which was the name of a male Sahabi (Fairuz al-Dailami, radhi Allahu &#8216;anhu) but it also given to girls in some places, is of Persian origin.  We do not even think of the meanings of most of these names, only that they were the names of Sahabis.  In fact, converts tend to choose from a very small pool of names.</p>

<p>In parts of the Muslim world which are not Arabic-speaking, non-Arabic names are very common.  Persian names are particularly common both in Iran and right across India, with a few names popping up in other languages; the same is true of Turkish, Indonesian and West African names in their respective countries, and most Arabic names would simply get mangled in China.  Some names which are masculine in one language are feminine in another, or vice versa - the name Yunus, for example, sounds like the English woman&#8217;s name Eunice.  A lot of Arabic names do not sound nice to non-Arab ears, much as many English names might sound off-putting to anyone who did not know what they mean; other names might sound banal.  The name Nur or Noor means light in Arabic, and the English equivalent is Claire; in German, however, nur is a common word which means &#8220;only&#8221;.  It&#8217;s just a word!</p>

<p>Of course, there are a lot of bad western names, many of them communicating low class or a lack of understanding.  There are a lot of surnames being pointlessly deployed as first names, along with mangled place names and personal names.  Eastern names tend to get filtered through many sound shifts, so you get two names which trace back to the same Hebrew name.  The name Jacob or Ya&#8217;qoob, for example, has been mangled beyond recognition, becoming Giacomo, Diego, Jacques, James, Siams (pronounced like the Arabic word Shams, meaning sun) and Seamus.  I have heard of two brothers called John and Sean (the same name in English and Gaelic), and the names Ronald and Reginald, as applied to the famous gangster twins of London, are also the same name.</p>

<p>So, if you are a convert to Islam and have an un-Islamic name, change it.  If you have a stupid or chavvy name, you might want to change that as well.  But most western names are none of these things &#8212; they simply do not identify you as a Muslim.  The problem is that neither do most Arabic names, which are actually commonly used by Christians in Arab countries too.  I personally do not intend to stop using Yusuf, but I applaud anyone who resists the demand to change their name, particularly if it comes from a total stranger.</p>
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		<title>White Privilege part 2: if you don&#8217;t like the heat &#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the recent discussion on White privilege and the Muslim community, it has been suggested that white converts to Islam who experience both discrimination and difficulty in integrating to their new community have the option of simply taking off their hijabs or robes and shortening their beards somewhat, and all their problems will go away, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the <a href="http://sheerfluency.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/the-white-privilege-the-ummah-carnival-what-does-it-mean-to-you-them-and-us/">recent discussion</a> on White privilege and the Muslim community, it has been suggested that white converts to Islam who experience both discrimination and difficulty in integrating to their new community have the option of simply taking off their hijabs or robes and shortening their beards somewhat, and all their problems will go away, while their Black and Asian fellow Muslims - and even non-Muslims - do not have that option.  This is a tempting way of dismissing the difficulties converts face and has been invoked twice in the past twenty-four hours or so (<a href="http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2009/05/18/being-muslim-while-white-privileged/">[1]</a>, <a href="http://www.sunnisisters.com/2009/05/list-of-pre-approved-official-muzzle.html">[2]</a>), but it has no real validity.</p>

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<p>What these people are basically saying is that if you dump your religion, or stop practising it properly, you can just go back to your former privileged life.  This is much like what many secular opponents of religion say to Muslim women - that discrimination against women who wear the hijab is not real discrimination, because all they have to do is take it off and all the doors will be open to them.  Freedom of religion means nothing if it only applies to expressions of the majority religion, or only to those who &#8220;look the part&#8221;.</p>

<p>However, the principle of &#8220;if you don&#8217;t like the heat, get out of the kitchen&#8221; can be applied to many other stances which people are not compelled to take.  I was prompted to write this by reading a <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/asia/2009/05/sri-lanka-pilger-british-tamil">John Pilger piece</a> in this week&#8217;s <em>New Statesman</em>, which made a reference to the Irish - meaning the Catholics - of Derry in northern Ireland (officially Londonderry, but that name signifies British, Protestant domination).  How many times has it been said that if the Catholics didn&#8217;t like living in a &#8220;Protestant country&#8221;, they could simply hop across the border and they&#8217;d be in &#8220;their&#8221; country - after all, they asked for a state and got it, didn&#8217;t they?  Similarly, it is asked why the Palestinian Arabs do not just move to any other Arab country, and why do the Arabs not just budge up and take a few Palestinians in?  After all, didn&#8217;t the British hive off most of Palestine for an Arab state (Jordan)?</p>

<p>Sometimes, it is said of people who experience racism or other forms of bigotry unrelated to skin colour that nobody can tell they&#8217;re Welsh or Irish or from the north or the south unless they open their mouth!  I saw this offered as an excuse - in print - for a British pop star who said, in an interview with the NME (the New Musical Express, a British magazine), &#8220;Tom Jones is a Welsh c**t; he&#8217;s a Welsh bastard!&#8221;.  Quite apart from the fact that asking someone to just not speak is not a reasonable expectation, such a comment would never have been tolerated if it related to someone&#8217;s skin colour.  It&#8217;s true that a Welshman in London won&#8217;t get called a Welsh git and a black person might suffer racial abuse, but that is small consolation in a school situation, for example.  If a group of thugs is beating you up for being a &#8220;stupid northern monkey&#8221;, it doesn&#8217;t hurt any less than when they use the N-word.</p>

<p>The point could equally be used against people who engage in racially or otherwise mixed marriages.  There is particular loathing towards such people in (thankfully diminishing) quarters of western society - a black man was murdered in front of his white girlfriend in Liverpool a few years ago, and I have heard racist &#8220;music&#8221; which rants against &#8220;queers&#8221;, &#8220;reds&#8221;, &#8220;yids&#8221; and &#8220;N-loving white slags&#8221; (it didn&#8217;t use the abbreviation) and threatens them with extermination.  It attracts the hostility of racists in a way that the mere presence of non-white people does not; after all, they can console themselves with the thought of coming to power and chucking all the &#8220;foreigners&#8221; out, but the notion that some of the foreign-looking people are actually descended from British people makes that all the more difficult, as, for some of them, does the thought of white women giving birth to Black babies.  Walking out on a partner or spouse is not as easy as taking off a hijab, but it&#8217;s the &#8220;if you don&#8217;t like the heat&#8221; stance taken to its logical conclusion.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s another way of saying &#8220;you asked for it&#8221;.  Why did you go out at night, or get into that man&#8217;s car, or let him into your house, or have that drink?  You didn&#8217;t have to; you could have been more careful or lived a blameless, pure existence.  Why did you grow your hair and become a hippie, or go on that anti-war/anti-capitalist march that got charged by the police, or marry that person rather than the person your parents chose for you?  You could have kept it safe and conservative.  People do not have to be religious, but it is our right, and if we suffer as a result, it should not be suggested that we just go back to our old ways.  After all, some white people do live troubled or impoverished lives, rather than comfortable and privileged ones.</p>
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		<title>White privilege and the white convert</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 12:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister <a href="http://sheerfluency.wordpress.com/">Brooke</a> has called for posts on the topic &#8220;White Privilege and the Ummah: what does it mean to you, them and us?&#8221; for a <a href="http://sheerfluency.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/the-white-privilege-the-ummah-carnival-what-does-it-mean-to-you-them-and-us/">blog carnival</a>.  The subject of racial divisions within the Muslim community is something which will doubtless be familiar to other Muslim coverts, regardless of their race; most of us have found that these divisions mysteriously appear after conversion, often after we have been fed a line about how Islam offers freedom from such prejudices.  I write from the perspective of a white, male convert to Islam, who grew up, converted and still lives in south London.  (Also see <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/26/white_and_disabled_privilege">this previous post</a>; the posts from Ginny&#8217;s blog referenced there are now <a href="http://ginnysthoughts.wordpress.com/2005/12/24/disabled-privilege/">here</a> and <a href="http://ginnysthoughts.wordpress.com/2005/12/23/thoughts-on-white-privilege/">here</a>.)</p>

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<p>I first heard of the notion of &#8220;privilege&#8221; when I was at college, and even then it was not in the course I took on feminism, but from an online, American source: a discussion on one of the old Usenet forums about the Michigan Womyn&#8217;s (sic) Music Festival and their policy of not admitting transsexuals.  The policy was, and remains, heavily controversial; it was suggested during that discussion that the event has had a practice of expelling suspected transexual women without cause or recourse &#8230; if they don&#8217;t like you all it takes is someone calling you TS and your out&#8221;.  An example of the reasoning used to justify the policy (which was not offered as the management&#8217;s own reason) was that the transsexuals had experienced &#8220;male privilege&#8221; and were therefore socialised differently from other women.</p>

<p>This struck me as a rather silly, flimsy reason for excluding transsexuals from a music festival.  There is the excessively deep significance being attached to an event which is surely attended by a lot of women for the same reason for which they might attend, say, Glastonbury, and the obvious and hilarious oxymoron &#8220;womyn born womyn&#8221;, which no contributor to that discussion remarked on.  I am sure many readers will perfectly understand excluding transsexuals from an event aimed solely at their &#8220;target&#8221; gender, particularly when (as was mentioned) some attendees choose to strip off, but it would seem more logical to stick to that simple argument than to throw &#8220;male privilege&#8221; at a group which might not have benefited from that privilege much, particularly if they had given a &#8220;feminine&#8221; impression, by intention or otherwise, or been for some other reason at the bottom of a male pecking order.  That&#8217;s not a privilege by anybody&#8217;s standards.</p>

<p>So, male privilege is complicated, and some men enjoy it to a greater extent than others.  It also varies from community to community, even within one society.  For example, whatever advantages usually come with being male could be drastically outweighed if you live in an area in which there are territorial gangs which threaten men when they walk out of their own neighbourhood into theirs.  In London, there are young black men who say they cannot go from one neighbourhood to another &#8212; say, Walworth to Peckham &#8212; without fear of being attacked by the local youths (the same problem affects white youths in some urban areas of Scotland, and the territories involved are much smaller).  This often means that they cannot easily find work, as it would mean taking the bus and travelling into someone else&#8217;s &#8220;patch&#8221;.  Anyone not affected &#8212; older people, women, those of a different race &#8212; wouldn&#8217;t even notice the dividing lines, but it might be their Berlin Wall.</p>

<p>Probably the best-known short article on this topic is the essay by Peggy McIntosh of Wellesley college, <em>Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack</em>, published in 1988.  You can read it as a PDF <a href="http://www.nymbp.org/reference/WhitePrivilege.pdf">here</a> and see the author explain it <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRnoddGTMTY">here</a> (she doesn&#8217;t read the fifty examples of privilege; after the first minute and a half there&#8217;s just words on screen and music).  They include such advantages most white people do not even think of, such as being able to criticise the government without being seen as a cultural outsider, or that she can &#8220;count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of [her] financial reliability&#8221;.  A few of the observations, relating to being able to get &#8220;your own&#8221; food or music or hair styles, are also somewhat trivial and not &#8220;systemic&#8221;, but related to simple market forces: you won&#8217;t be able to buy &#8220;ethnic&#8221; food in a place where there is almost nobody of a given ethnicity, not because the staff are ignorant or prejudiced, but because there is no demand for it, and the same is true of hairdressing and music.  The same would be true for white visitors from the Continent looking for black bread or German-language music (as for Black music in English, particularly American or American-influenced Black music, it is widely listened to by white youth and widely available).</p>

<p>Privilege is typically unconscious; McIntosh notes that both white people and men are taught not to recognise their privilege, such that it becomes &#8220;an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools and blank checks&#8221;.  Actually, male privilege &#8212; or the attitude of male privilege (and I get the impression from some American uses of the term that the attitude is what they mean by the term) &#8212; is rather less subtle, in my experience.  I have come across males who display contempt for women fairly openly, and use the word &#8216;woman&#8217; as an insult, as if maleness was its own reward (a brief look in the mirror should convince a lot of the males concerned otherwise, but sadly it&#8217;s not).  But certainly, a lot of whites don&#8217;t really know of some of the difficulties non-whites, particularly black men, face in this country.  I was personally unaware, for example, that my cousin&#8217;s boyfriend (who is black) had been stopped in the street by the police, demanding to know what he was doing in that area, where there were not many blacks.  Some middle-class whites are content with this sort of thing going on, allowing themselves to be convinced that it is for general safety.  (The same is often true of anti-terrorist stances which penalise whole ethnic minorities for the actions of a minority of extremists; I&#8217;m sure there is a whole thesis to be written on fear-based political stances on crime or terrorism aimed at the people least likely to be affected by either.)</p>

<p>Having said that the notion of privilege was not something I had heard of until I heard it from Americans, it has to be said that the English are privileged even by white standards.  The British, particularly the English, have both an imperial history, with the result that our language is known the world over, and the benefit of never having our lands invaded or occupied, or having been subjected to an enforced mass migration.  With the exception of Spain and Portugal, both of which were under dictatorship until the mid-1970s, no other country in Europe has both of these benefits.  I have often had the notion to tell Muslims with offensive attitudes that this is my country, but many of them were in fact born here and do not have any other country themselves (and it would be a lot harder for me to survive as a Muslim without them being here).  I also conveniently forget that part of my family is not, by heritage, British; had my mother&#8217;s parents moved here from Barbados, say, rather than Ireland, I would certainly not be able to rely on my skin colour to communicate that this was my country.</p>

<p>When it comes to the Muslim community in the UK, a few details might not go amiss for my American readers.  Most of our Muslims come from South Asia, and their migrations started in the 1950s, along with the waves of Black immigration from the Caribbean.  At that time, natives of the Empire were British citizens, and citizens of the newly independent countries in south Asia also had British citizenship, so there was no impediment to their immigration until a separate category of &#8220;overseas citizen&#8221; was introduced in the 1960s.  Different Muslim populations in the UK come from different parts of South Asia: some from Gujarat, some from the Mirpur region of Kashmir, some from elsewhere in Pakistan, and some from Bangladesh.  A second major group consists of Somalis; there are also Ugandan and other East African Asians, who fled in response to persecution and expropriation in the 1970s, and minorities of Arabs, Turks, Iranians and West Africans.</p>

<p>A significant difference with the US community is that British Muslims tend to be poorer than the Arab immigrants who dominate the American Muslim community, and to associate with the Labour party. the traditional left-wing party, rather than the Conservatives (this allegiance partly changed after 9/11, but only in terms of spreading to other centre-left parties such as the Liberal Democrats as the Labour government was tarnished by its association with the Bush wars); traditional Islam is much stronger, and political-Islamic movements are less strong in terms of adherents, although they are still strong in community representation.  British Asian Muslims never had the illusion of being white, as was the case with the Arab immigrants in the USA before 9/11.  In fact, there was a movement in the 1970s to call everyone who was not &#8220;white&#8221;, in the European sense, black.  This persists in the race relations establishment, but most Asians identify as Asian.</p>

<p>Converts often have to either fit into one of these communities, as it is they (usually the Pakistanis, Gujaratis and Bangladeshis) who dominate the community at the local mosque.  They can choose to either accept the norms of the local community, or be an outsider who prays and then goes home.  There are organisations set up to help converts, such as the New Muslims&#8217; Project, and a few communities (jama&#8217;ats) which mainly consist of converts: these include the Murabitun, a Sufi-inspired group, and the Salafiyya, who have various bases around the country including one in Brixton, south London, and at least one in Birmingham.  They are particularly popular among black converts.</p>

<p>In terms of integrating into the Muslim community, converts all face a lot of the same problems.  One is a less than welcoming attitude among the established Muslim community, which may consist of being &#8220;put on a pedestal&#8221; and introduced as the trophy convert, but finding it a bit difficult to penetrate much further, let alone marry one of one&#8217;s Asian friends&#8217; daughters.  There are various reasons for this: it is no secret that a lot of spouses are brought from &#8220;back home&#8221;, both husbands and wives, a great hope for many who still live out there; there is supposedly the fear of a cultural clash (I have heard this excuse twice from Bengali women who told me their families would not consider me as I was not Bengali); there are considerations of &#8220;what their friends might say&#8221;, of caste (this is a problem for existing Muslims from the &#8220;wrong&#8221; caste, of course) and, sometimes, of downright racism (this includes the presumption that a convert is not as pure as someone from a Muslim family. a highly offensive presumption).  Converts are often told they should find a mate from among &#8220;their own&#8221;, i.e. a fellow convert, but all too often they want to marry into a Muslim family, so they can have the support of an extended family, particularly if their own family does not support them or has disowned them; a convert without this attitude may well run into one with it, and I have heard it said that many converted women want to marry Arabic-speaking men.  Converts are also currently few enough that many of them can afford to have this attitude; if there were more of us, it would not be realistic for all of us to desire to marry born Muslims.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve heard it said, by an African Muslim friend, that black converts do find it harder to find spouses, and to integrate into established Muslim communities, than whites, but that does not mean that whites do not face any difficulty, or be expected to do things which no other Muslim would do.  Converts are expected to be good da&#8217;ees, or somehow better than most practising born Muslims, and on numerous occasions I have been told I should <em>make</em> other people Muslims, as if it was as easy as saying it (as if people make other people Muslims, indeed).  Besides the expectation that I should &#8220;settle&#8221; for a convert rather than expect to marry an Arab or a Pakistani, I have had it suggested it to me by staff at an Arab-run local caf&eacute; that I should marry one of their Polish or Slovakian waitresses and &#8220;make her Muslim&#8221;!  They would never suggest such a thing to a fellow Algerian.  (An Egyptian I once knew &#8212; who used to run a rival restaurant to that one &#8212; did have a happy marriage to a Slovakian convert, but I&#8217;m sure he didn&#8217;t marry her over the counter before she converted.)  Female converts sometimes report pressure to engage in polygynous marriages (and there is material out there written by convert women lecturing other women on how impious it is to resist polygamy), yet as sister Safiya <a href="http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/marrying-a-brother-from-abroad-part-one-before-you-get-married/">points out</a>, &#8220;there are many Muslim families who would throw a fit if this was even suggested to their daughter&#8221;.  Some born Muslims also presume that we must be rich or powerful, assuming we can do favours for them, such as to help them immigrate (actually, most white people have never had to deal with the immigration system; you are better off asking the advice of any non-white British person).</p>

<p>Both black and white converts have the option of entering established communities of &#8220;their own kind&#8221;.  However, these communities are usually heterodox and sectarian, holding Muslims outside their community in some contempt.  The gatherings of normal Muslims in which English is spoken and attendees are of mixed backgrounds are few and held quietly, and word of them spreads by word of mouth.  At least one has closed in recent years.  The &#8220;sectarian option&#8221; does lend the convert the support of Muslims of their own kind who have made a similar journey to them, but it may also result in men (especially) with similarly troubled backgrounds being pushed together, and those problems eventually coming to the fore as has been seen in the American &#8220;salafi&#8221; communities recently.  These communities are often unbalanced, often consisting entirely of middle-class people or entirely of people of disadvantaged backgrounds, when a community really needs all classes to thrive.  It also cuts the convert off from other Muslims.</p>

<p>As for whether &#8220;white privilege&#8221; disappears when someone converts to Islam, I would say that for a male convert, it does not, at least, not immediately.  In the eleven years I have been a Muslim, I would say that I have had negative experiences which I could possibly trace to prejudice against my religion which I could count on my fingers.  It is altogether different for female converts who wear the hijab, they often face the presumption that they are foreigners, and outright hostility based on the presumption that they are &#8220;terrorists&#8221; (when, in fact, most terrorists are male) or &#8220;traitors&#8221;, and hostility from some white women who regard the hijab as some sort of instrument of oppression.  Cases of men being refused jobs because they refused to shake hands with a female colleague or (potential) superior are well-known, and I have experienced this myself.  Of course, some converts refuse to accept this opportunity to &#8220;pass&#8221; as it would involve what they regard as &#8220;imitating the kuffaar&#8221;.  A convert who hides his religion may come unstuck if a religious issue presents itself as he goes, as he would then need to tell people, possibly total strangers, that he is a Muslim and therefore cannot shake the lady&#8217;s hand or must go to lunch at 1pm rather than an hour earlier so he can make the Friday prayer.</p>

<p>Of course, a male convert who had passed unnoticed as a single man, without making much adjustment to his appearance beyond growing a beard, may get a rude awakening when he marries and has children; he may be ill-equipped to deal with the fact that his children, if they are not white, don&#8217;t enjoy the privileges he did before he married.  He will have to deal with the fact that people now know he is a Muslim when he walks with his wife and children, and there is the issue of where to live and where they can go as a family.  Britain&#8217;s ethnic minorities are not at all well-represented in the British countryside or in most provincial towns, and many locals might never have seen a non-white person other than on TV, and certainly not in their area.  When I wrote once on my blog about one of my trips to the countryside, a sister commented that the only countryside she would be visiting was that of Algeria, and this was a fellow convert.</p>

<p>Muslims generally want to live in an area where there are plenty of Muslims, which in London does not present much of a problem as there are several such areas, although there are also definite white-dominated, racist areas (a large chunk of the south-eastern suburbia away from the Thames is a good example).  The first two examples of white privilege mentioned in the McIntosh paper (the second obviously being related to wealth as well as race) are:</p>

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<li>I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.</li>
<li>If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area, which I can afford and in which I would want to live.</li>
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<p>These do not just apply to race, but to religion as well.  The presence of so-called ghettoes are a much remarked on phenomenon and are generally considered a &#8220;bad thing&#8221;; in the case of Muslims, they are often perceived as alien entities full of turbans and burkas in which everybody hates the British.  Melanie Phillips opens her infamous, moronic book <em><a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/04/26/review_of_londonistan">Londonistan</a></em> with the complaint that &#8220;the urban landscape is punctuated by women wearing not just the hijab, the Islamic headscarf, but burkas (sic) and niqabs &#8230; in conformity with strict Islamic codes of female modesty&#8221;.  She goes on to speculate that all this might be &#8220;a political statement of antagonism towards the British state&#8221; rather than obedience to a commandment, before alleging that &#8220;as you travel across London you notice that district after district seems to have become a distinctive Muslim neighbourhood&#8221;, and that if you travel to the &#8220;rundown&#8221; towns of the north, &#8220;the concentration of mosques, Islamic bookshops and other Muslim-run stores, the Islamic dress on the streets, the voices talking not in English but in the dialects of the Indian subcontinent make you feel that you have stepped into a village in the Punjab that has somehow been transported into the gray, drizzly setting of an English mill town&#8221;.  Melanie Phillips is Jewish, and Jews themselves do not spread themselves evenly across the country or even London, but mostly concentrate themselves in a few districts in north London (although she does not live in one of them herself).</p>

<p>It is important to note that most so-called ghettoes in the UK are nothing of the kind; even Brixton in fact has a white majority, and the same is true of most areas where there is a high proportion of non-white (including Muslim) settlement.  Even on streets with a lot of Asian shops, for example, there may well be a white majority in the houses behind them.  However, besides the obvious logcal benefits of a community with particular sartorial or dietary preferences or needs settling where there are shops catering to those needs, London has a racist history and there is safety in numbers, and minority populations who settle in a &#8220;ghetto&#8221; are only seeking to enjoy what the majority enjoy everywhere else: the company of people similar to themselves on a day-to-day basis, and the ability to dress the way they are used to dressing without it being unusual.  The privileged majority does not even think about this benefit when they enjoy it, but they begrudge it to a minority, accusing them of &#8220;not mixing&#8221;, even though they themselves do not make much effort to mix (they might not mix much with any of their neighbours, in fact).  Speaking as a white person living in a district with a high Korean population, the only occasions I have much contact with them is buying a can of Pepsi from the Seoul Plaza shop at the Fountain bus stop.  Of course, &#8220;store-front&#8221; minority-towns &#8212; Bangla Town, China Town and so forth &#8212; are good for tourism, but the people in them are not so well appreciated.</p>

<p>When it comes to converts retaining a &#8220;privileged attitude&#8221; in relation to other Muslims, I do think that this is a significant problem, particularly for middle-class converts.  I once coined a term &#8220;whititude&#8221; &#8212; the first I is short, as in which, but it is an amalgam of &#8220;white attitude&#8221; and describes the attitude that they have a certain enlightenment that is lacking in the established Muslim community.  A particularly egregious version is what I call the &#8220;mark of Norwich&#8221;, Norwich being the former seat of the a particular &#8220;Sufi-based&#8221; political movement and, last I heard, where a lot of them still live, and it refers to the palpable contempt that some of these people, and even some former members of the movement, have for &#8220;ethnic&#8221; Muslims, an attitude which goes right to the top of the movement.  Their gold dinar is what really matters; everything the other Muslims are concerned about, such as &#8220;halal biscuits&#8221;, beards and hijab, is just a trifling distraction.  I once mentioned the idea of studying Islam at an Indian-run <em>Darul Uloom</em> in the UK with a middle-class white convert, headmaster of an Islamic school no less, and he told me in effect not to bother with such institutions, as they were attempts to re-create institutions from back home in the West.  The attitude that the immigrant and immigrant-descended Muslim population is benighted and needs to be shown the light by western converts is the height of arrogance, particularly coming from people whose adherence to the Shari&#8217;ah and Sunnah is as lax as some of these people&#8217;s.  I can understand western converts having some impatience with some of the attitudes they might find among that population and not wanting to exchange their culture wholesale, but it does not justify having a down-the-nose view of their whole culture.  Admittedly, not all converts who display attitudes like this are white, but the attitude as displayed by this particular type of middle-class convert is unmistakeable.  With others, it is often a reaction to bitter experiences with the established community.</p>

<p>In conclusion, a white person who converts to Islam in the UK right now (and no doubt elsewhere) is likely to have his or her first experiences of being part of a minority, and at that, a minority against which prejudice is considered in many quarters to be perfectly acceptable because of what <em>some</em> Muslims do in the name of religion.  This does not mean that they entirely give up the advantages of being white (and middle-class, if indeed they are), but they do acquire additional problems the established, even if non-white, community has not had to deal with, such as having to adjust to the norms of an unfamiliar community, which may not trust and never really accept them, and in which a foreign language might be the language of instruction and even conversation, while also dealing with a family which does not share their new belief, or accept or understand it.  It also may bring their first experience of attention from the security forces.  How much of their former advantages they give up depends on how much they practise, what adjustment they make to their dress, if and whom they marry and which Muslims they choose to befriend.  I am well aware of white, middle-class Muslims in southern England who have clearly given up as little of that privilege as they possibly can, but they are a very small minority.  I would also add that the presence of Muslims who are &#8220;native&#8221; rather than obviously foreign in character may help to lessen the foreign perception of Islam <em>per se</em>; it is my thesis that, only when Islam acquires a presence in rural Britain and among the indigenous population rather than just being an urban minority phenomenon, will we be able to say that Islam has really &#8220;arrived&#8221;, but that is a topic for another day, <em>insha Allah</em>.</p>
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