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		<title>Tablighis: engaging in Bradford, isolating in London &#8211; or is it just a misunderstanding?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title = "Olympic mosque could create breeding ground for extremists, says senior Anglican - Telegraph" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/3222602/Olympic-mosque-could-create-breeding-ground-for-extremists-says-senior-Anglican.html">Olympic mosque could create breeding ground for extremists, says senior Anglican - Telegraph</a></p>

<p>This was in yesterday&#8217;s Telegraph, and it surprised me how many specific falsehoods and irrelevances could be crammed into one article.  The claims come from one Dr Philip Lewis, &#8220;an interfaith adviser to the Bishop of Bradford&#8221;, who as one brother suggested on the <a href="http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?p=566188#post566188">MPACUK forum</a>, must have bought his PhD from Woolworths!</p>

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Let&#8217;s take the claims one by one:</p>

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  <p>&#8220;Tablighi Jamaat does not try to engage with wider society so there must be clear worries that such a mosque would lead to a ghetto,&#8221; he said.</p>
  
  <p>&#8220;The danger is that this becomes a self-contained world, which would be vulnerable to extremists.&#8221;</p>
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<p>The fact is that the new mosque is intended as their markaz or centre, to replace buildings which had already been used for this purpose.  It is in a mixed area, where the Muslims are already of a mixture of Islamic groupings: some Bareilawi, some &#8220;salafi&#8221; and some Deobandi/Tablighi.  People come from outside east London to attend the gatherings, as they are well-known.  None of this is likely to change if this mosque is built.  In fact, if the TJ are in charge of a major mosque, they are unlikely to be allowed to run it as any kind of fiefdom and exclude women, or do any of the other things alleged here.  Many Deobandi/Tablighi mosques already admit women anyway.</p>

<p>The Deobandis have several mosques in south London, and there are no ghettoes around any of them.</p>

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  <p>The leaders of the liquid bomb plot, who were last month found guilty of conspiracy to kill, attended mosques run by Tablighi Jamaat. Suicide bombers who carried out terrorist attacks in July 2005 also went to meetings held by the group.</p>
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<p>Irrelevant.  Hundreds of Muslims attend gatherings of the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at; they talk about strengthening religious faith and practice, not usually about politics, least of all contemporary politics.  If it was the TJ that turned these men into terrorists, one would have thought that there would already be a civil war in this country.</p>

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  <p>Dr Lewis, one of the Church&#8217;s most respected Islamic experts, said that the organisation lacks Muslim scholars and does not educate its followers in the &#8220;richness of Islam&#8221;.</p>
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<p>This is such nonsense.  The Tablighi Jama&#8217;at are close to the Deobandi establishment, and they have some of the most well-established Islamic learning institutions in the world, including Deoband itself and similar institutions throughout the Subcontinent (most notably Karachi), and in South Africa and even in the UK.  The TJ has access to all of their scholars.</p>

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  <p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a religious supremacy in their teaching which doesn&#8217;t accept other religions. It can create an us and them mentality.&#8221;</p>
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<p>It teaches that Islam is the final revealed religion and the only remaining religion of value before God, which is standard Islamic teaching.  Do Christians not teach similar things about their own religion in relation to other religions, including Islam?  The Deobandis are not the most hardline about that particular issue among the Muslims in east London, including those in charge of mosques, and there does not seem to be much if any conflict between them; since this mosque is a move, not an expansion, it will not make any such conflict better or worse.</p>

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  <p>According to Dr Lewis, followers of the sect are told not to mix with non-Muslims and read a book, called the Tablighi Nisab, which &#8220;could be read as a romanticisation of jihad&#8221;.</p>
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<p>The Tablighi Nisab has not been called that for several years; it is called <em>Faza&#8217;il-e-A&#8217;maal</em>, roughly translating as &#8220;Deeds and their Virtues&#8221;.  The book has six sections, namely:</p>

<ul>
<li>Stories of the Sahaba</li>
<li>Virtues of the Holy Qur&#8217;an</li>
<li>Virtues of the Salaat</li>
<li>Virtues of Zikr (remembrance of God)</li>
<li>Virtues of Tabligh</li>
<li>Virtues of Ramadan</li>
</ul>

<p>Modern editions have an additional section, Muslim Degeneration and its Only Remedy, which refers to their work, which they call tabligh.  The sections which might involve &#8220;romanticising jihad&#8221; are likely to be in the first section, and the jihad in question was a defensive effort against various attempts to destroy the Muslim faith at its beginning.  There is nothing in there about any of the movements associated with jihad now.  Lewis is being dishonest by suggesting that the book (in general) is a &#8220;romanticisation of jihad&#8221; because of these sections when there is much more to the text than that.</p>

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  <p>He also raised concerns about their treatment of women, revealing that the group is extremely conservative in refusing to allow women to leave the home unless they are accompanied by a male.</p>
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<p>This is nonsense.  Some scholars may say this, but women can be seen on the streets of any district where Tablighis hold sway.  Well-covered, but there all the same, and usually not accompanied by men.</p>

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  <p>Furthermore, women are not permitted to interact with a man that is unrelated, the interfaith adviser said.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>What is missed out here is &#8220;without good reason&#8221;.  Men and women talking to each other in general is not forbidden, as long as certain etiquettes are observed, most particularly, that they are not alone in a room together.  Neither of these teachings are specific to the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at.</p>

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  <p>Councillor Alan Craig, who leads the Christian People&#8217;s Alliance and organised the meeting, said that Dr Lewis&#8217;s contribution to the debate was a great boost to the campaign to block the mosque.</p>
  
  <p>He said: &#8220;For someone of Philip Lewis&#8217;s stature and experience, who has good relations with Muslims, to make these comments is a great help to our campaign.</p>
  
  <p>&#8220;It shows that this is a reasoned campaign against the mega-mosque and is not built on Islamaphobia, but on facts and evidence.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Alan Craig is a councillor on Newham Council, but not for the area (or ward) where the mosque is planned.  His long-running campaign against the so-called &#8220;mega mosque&#8221; has been as based on half-truths, red herrings and distortions as this article is; I rebutted a few of them, from YouTube, <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/05/12/united_bigots_of_the_megamosqu" class="broken_link">here</a>.</p>

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  <p>Senior Government sources told The Sunday Telegraph last year that it is prepared to block the proposal to build the mosque over planning issues and concern for its impact on community relations.</p>
  
  <p>There are clear planning grounds on which the development could be turned down. It is so close to the main Olympic venues that it may interfere with preparations for the Games.</p>
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<p>The site is the other side of a main road from the Olympic site; its nearest station is West Ham, south-west of Stratford, while the Olympic village is west and north-west of it.  There is a town centre next to the site as well, with a substantial new shopping development being proposed also; I fail to see why a mosque should cause much additional disruption, particularly if parking is deliberately restricted to those who actually need to drive, such as the elderly and disabled.  Even if it did, it might more fairly be said that the Olympic site is what causes the disruption; the mosque is there for the locals, who are likely to still be there, if the Olympics does not price them out of their neighbourhood, after the Olympics have finished.</p>

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  <p>Even leading Muslims have cast doubt on the need for another mosque in east London.</p>
  
  <p>Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui, who co-founded the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain, said: &#8220;We have too many mosques. I think it should not be built.</p>
  
  <p>&#8220;What we need first is more integration between the existing mosques and the wider community.&#8221;</p>
  
  <p>Irfan Al-Alawi, Europe director of the Centre for Islamic Pluralism, has also expressed &#8220;extreme concern&#8221; about the spread of Tablighi Jamaat.</p>
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<p>Neither of these people are &#8220;leading Muslims&#8221;.  Ghayasuddin Siddiqui is a has-been, a former &#8220;useful idiot&#8221; for the Iranian propaganda ministry, whose &#8220;parliament&#8221; has not had an election in years.  (It and the &#8220;Muslim Institute&#8221; operate out of the same address in Fulham Palace Road, London.)  Al-Alawi is similarly a fringe figure, in league with Stephen Schwartz who is notorious for cosying up to American Jewish and fundamentalist Christian bigots (i.e. those who run Front Page Magazine, where most of his writings seem to appear) and telling the Muslims&#8217; enemies what they want to hear by denouncing prominent Muslims as extremists.  He does not exactly have a record of serving the Muslims in east London, either.  Why on earth could the Telegraph not find Muslims in east London able to give cogent arguments against the proposed mosque?  Did they not care to contact MPACUK, or the Barelvi sectarians who want to stop another Deobandi mosque being built for the same reasons they have hated the Deobandis for the past century?</p>

<p>This article is nothing but a barrage of half-truths and innuendo, and the man behind them should know better, given that just over a week ago, he <a href="http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/3749345.Historic_signing_to_boost_relations/">signed a set of guidelines</a> with a Deobandi ulama grouping in Bradford, the Association of Muslim Scholars in Britain.  The people behind the Abbey Mills Mosque are closely related to the AMSB (or JUB).  His boss, bishop of Bradford David James, said that &#8220;Bradford is a very appropriate place to host the signing of the guidelines because in the city there are many examples of Christian and Muslim leaders working in partnership&#8221;; surely this very statement disproves his accusation that the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at encourages an &#8220;us and them mentality&#8221;, rather than engagement with wider society?</p>
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		<title>Monbiot: getting into the Olympic spirit</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
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<p>George Monbiot notes on the recent eviction of Gypsies and other Travellers from their sites in east London to prepare for the Olympics of 2012 - something which, he says, is a recurring theme in recent Olympic history, from Seoul in 1988, through Barcelona, Atlanta, Athens, Sydney, to Beijing and now London.  City authorities invariably use Olympic games to mount their own local versions of &#8220;drive out trash&#8221;, removing everyone from street traders to the mentally ill, the homeless and other &#8220;undesirables&#8221; from the streets and destroying people&#8217;s homes and amenities.</p>

<p>(I&#8217;ve always opposed having the Olympics in east London precisely because of the effect it is likely to have on the long-established Asian - and Muslim - community there.  If there is a &#8220;failure of leadership&#8221; among the Muslims in London, it is the failure of the MCB and others like them to mobilise Muslims against the games and let the mayoral candidates in 2004 know that the idea was bad for their people.  However, it was not seen as a major issue among Muslim voters then: everyone was too concerned about Iraq.)</p>
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		<title>The mega mosque petition (updated)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately Jamal at Radical Muslim has been posting requests for people to sign a petition to the UK Prime Minister asking him to approve the construction of the <a href="http://www.abbeymillsmosque.com/">Abbey Mills mosque</a>.  Several people have objected, because he has posted his requests on blog entries which have nothing to do with the subject, even on my tech blog.  I had a look at <a href="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/buildmosque/">the petition</a>, submitted by one Joseph Ashworth, and quickly decided that I won&#8217;t be signing it.  The reason?  It has no hope of being taken seriously because it is so stupidly worded.</p>

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The petition is to &#8220;Go forward with plans to build a £100 Million mega Mosque&#8221;, which accepts two of the straw-man arguments of those who oppose the mosque.  It&#8217;s not supposed to be a &#8220;mega mosque&#8221;, but primarily (after the two-week Olympics are over) a place for the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at to hold their weekly study meetings, and as for the cost of construction, the mosque&#8217;s <a href="http://www.abbeymillsmosque.com/AMILLS/page.php?PID=48#cost" class="broken_link">website</a> does not give any indication of how much it might cost; they simply say &#8220;it is too early to say&#8221;.  The figure might have been an estimate of how much the Mangera-Avars monstrosity might have costed, but the mosque&#8217;s website earlier stated that they had abandoned that idea (they have since deleted those words, but <a href="http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:pJ3Xn8_Ix1UJ:www.abbeymillsmosque.com/AMILLS/page.php%3FPID%3D48+mangera+site:abbeymillsmosque.com&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1" class="broken_link">here&#8217;s the cached version</a> at Google), and there is no reference to it on the site now.</p>

<p>The petition was obviously not started by a Muslim, and thinks that having such a petition will show what a tolerant people we are, but nearly all the signatories are Muslims, which really defeats the object of it.  Surely Muslims should be starting their own petition, if that is the way to go about this - but it should not be to demand a &#8220;£100 mega mosque&#8221;, as if any mosque should cost that much, but to ask that the decision on whether or not to build it not be swayed by pressure from ill-informed bigots.  In any case, the Prime Minister is not the person who deals with local planning applications; the responsible parties are the Olympic authority and the local council&#8217;s planning department - the local council being that of Newham borough in this case.</p>

<p><strong>Update:</strong> Jamal has now posted a libelous tirade against me on his own blog (see trackback below).  He has insinuated that among the alleged 2,500 Muslims&#8217; signatures on the anti-mosque petition is mine, and it is not.  He has insinuated that I am on the payroll of the BNP or the Zionists, which I am not.  He in fact knows my position on the so-called mega mosque, which is that I support the plan, with reservations.  I know he has read <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/05/12/united_bigots_of_the_megamosqu">what I&#8217;ve written before</a> on the subject, because he&#8217;s linked to it in <a href="http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/05/30/the-mega-mosque/">this article</a>.</p>

<p>He insists on calling it the &#8220;Mega Mosque&#8221;.  This is the name its bigoted opponents coined for it.  The rest of us call it the Markaz, Masjid Ilyas or the <a href="http://www.abbeymillsmosque.com">Abbey Mills Mosque</a>.  The name &#8220;mega mosque&#8221; derives from the exaggerated claims of a 40,000 to 70,000 capacity, when <a href="http://www.abbeymillsmosque.com/AMILLS/page.php?PID=48#architects">in fact</a> the capacity is more likely to be around 12,000.  Towards the end of his diatribe he takes a pointless side-swipe at sister Ginny for her concern at things the pop singer Akon has said, which she thinks use Islam as an excuse for his immoral behaviour.  The occasion for this is that Ginny also objects to his action of posting requests to sign the pro-mosque petition on blog posts which have nothing to do with it, among them <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/qt/2007/05/qt_v430_released.php">this post</a>, about a software release on a blog which is not about Islam.  He objects to his postings (I hesitate to call it spamming, because spam is pork which is najasa, but it is basically the same behaviour) being compared to al-Muhajiroun posters, but al-Muhajiroun did exactly that - posted their material where it did not belong.  (Sister Ginny has responded <a href="http://ginnysthoughts.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/to-support-a-petition-or-not/">here</a>.)</p>

<p>It seems that br. Jamal has a problem with <a href="http://www.sunnisisters.com/?p=2351">taking things personally</a> as sister Umm Zaid recently wrote at length about many women she knows, so clearly it&#8217;s not just women.  His reaction reminds me of that of MPACUK when their tactics and their lack of any sense of appropriateness was criticised.  The problem with these people is that they make us look like excitable incompetents.</p>

<p>For the record, I support the mosque plan, with reservations: that any foreign money (particularly Saudi money) not have strings attached, such as an understanding of future Saudi influence over the mosque, and that it be a beautiful building, not an &#8220;iconic&#8221;, &#8220;radical&#8221; building, because such buildings are usually ugly to look at and unpleasant to work in.  It needs to be a credit to us, not an embarrassment, and the same can be said of Muslims who campaign on Muslim issues.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[BC Radio last week broadcast a programme called Turning Right, which probed the British National Party's lame attempts to hide the thuggish and criminal natures of a number of its major activists, including its leader, Nick Griffin. Griffin made little effort to conceal his real opinions, asserting that he now believed what he had to, because he would otherwise be extradited to France ("otherwise", for example, includes maintaining his devotion to Holocaust denial). The programme also gave airtime to an outfit called the Christian People's Alliance, which they claim drove down the BNP's support in its white, working-class east London "heartland" by concentrating on local issues. However, the CPA and the BNP are on the same side on one issue: opposition to the so-called "mega mosque", which is proposed for a site near to the main Olympic stadium. An examination of material issued by the CPA, however, reveals its reliance on misinformation and bigotry.
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<p>BBC Radio last week broadcast a programme called <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/pip/biz61">Turning Right</a>, which probed the British National Party&#8217;s lame attempts to hide the thuggish and criminal natures of a number of its major activists, including its leader, Nick Griffin.  Griffin made little effort to conceal his real opinions, asserting that he now believed what he had to, because he would otherwise be extradited to France (&#8220;otherwise&#8221;, for example, includes maintaining his devotion to Holocaust denial).  The programme also gave airtime to an outfit called the <a href="http://www.cpalliance.net/" title="Christian People&#039;s Alliance" class="broken_link">Christian People&#8217;s Alliance</a>, which they claim drove down the BNP&#8217;s support in its white, working-class east London &#8220;heartland&#8221; by concentrating on local issues.  However, the CPA and the BNP are on the same side on one issue: opposition to the so-called &#8220;mega mosque&#8221;, which is proposed for a site near to the main Olympic stadium.  An examination of material issued by the CPA, however, reveals its reliance on misinformation and bigotry.</p>

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The CPA actually has three regional sites linked off its main page: Scotland, Wales and <a href="http://www.cpanewham.org/" title="Christian People's Alliance">Newham</a>, the east London borough in which the Olympic village is to be built.  One of its councillors, Alan Craig, who is not actually the councillor for the area which includes the mosque land, has made a series of YouTube videos purporting to &#8220;expose&#8221; the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at, which intends that the mosque will serve as its <em>markaz</em>, or centre.  Craig claims that there will be no Islamophobia, that he is not opposed to mosque-building in general, and that he respects Muslims as his fellow citizens (his party even put up a Muslim candidate in the recent local elections in Scotland, but <a href="http://www.osamasaeed.org/osama/2007/05/hateful_electio.html">according to Osama Saeed</a>, did not draw attention to their anti-mosque campaign).  His objection is simply to the fact that it will be the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at running it.  He seems ignorant of the fact that the TJ, or Deobandis, control several mosques in London already, including Queen&#8217;s Road, Walthamstow, and perhaps most of those south of the Thames, including Balham, Stockwell, Streatham, Norbury, Croydon (London Rd and Cherry Orchard), Wimbledon and one in Tooting.</p>

<p>Craig has made a series of YouTube videos outlining his case against the TJ and their plan.  This one is called Meet Alan Craig:</p>

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<p>The half-truths start pretty early, with Craig claiming that the mosque is known as the &#8220;Olympics mega-mosque&#8221;, when in fact this is a name its opponents call it.  Muslims, other than the sectarians who have thrown in their lot with Craig, call it <a href="http://www.abbeymillsmosque.com/">Abbey Mills Mosque</a> or the Tablighi markaz or Masjid Ilyas, or the mosque of the prophet Elijah, peace be upon him.  The jama&#8217;at, who acquired the land in the early 1990s, did not intend it as a showpiece &#8220;mega-mosque&#8221; at all, but as a place big enough to hold large gatherings, as they commonly do.  The idea of turning it into an Olympic showpiece came as a result of the Olympic bid.</p>

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<p>In this video, Community Impact of the Olympics Mega-mosque, Craig &#8220;celebrates&#8221; the fact that some 120 languages are spoken in Newham and that it is one of the most diverse places on the planet and that he loves living there.  He claims that the TJ, however, have &#8220;previous&#8221;, having built their European headquarters in Savile Town, Dewsbury, and that since that mosque was built, the streets around it have become a &#8220;parallel society&#8221;, a Tablighi enclave or ghetto in which 95-97% of the residents are Tablighi Muslims.  He claims that this is no accident, that the TJ are separatists and isolationists who like to separate themselves from the &#8220;degenerate West&#8221; and the unbelievers.  He claims that such an attitude is very different from the teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), who is reported as having told his disciples to be a &#8220;salt and light&#8221; in society.</p>

<p>In my own experience, TJ mosques tend to get built in TJ-sympathetic areas, which is why there are two mosques in Gloucester and both are TJ.  The people Craig claims moved into the area surrounding the Dewsbury Tablighi centre must have come from somewhere, and if they all came from other areas which had been served by Deobandi or Tablighi mosques, are those mosques closing down?  All evidence shows that mosques are not closing down, and that old churches and even pubs are being turned into mosques.  Furthermore, it is all very well to talk of being &#8220;in society&#8221; when you dominate that society.  Muslims, like other ethnic minorities, seek to live with people similar to themselves, so that they have a high chance of meeting people like themselves on a daily basis, something white people take for granted as most of the country has a white and at least nominally Christian majority.  In London, there are clusters of people all over the place: Africans in Peckham, Afro-Carribeans in Brixton, Portuguese in Stockwell, Bengalis in Whitechapel, Arabs in numerous parts of inner west London, Jews in several pockets of north London.  In east London also, Muslims with the TJ live alongside people of other races and religions and with Muslims of other persuasions.</p>

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<p>Tablighi Jamaat and Violence is perhaps the most unpleasant watch for a Muslim of all these videos.  It makes a lame attempt to link the TJ with violence.  Bear in mind, we are talking about the TJ&#8217;s activities in the UK here, not what some of them do in Pakistan.  We are also talking about actual Tablighi activity, not about attitudes common amongst Tablighis.</p>

<p>Craig tells us that the TJ &#8220;say quite clearly, and quite publically, that they do not participate, they do not believe in, they do not preach violence&#8221;.  He first challenges this with the fact that a number of British Muslims who involved themselves in terrorism were associated with the TJ, including Richard Reid, two of the four London bombers and a number of those arrested in connection with the August 2006 &#8220;airline terror plot&#8221;.  The fact that people have passed through the TJ does not make the TJ responsible for their decision to carry out acts of terrorism; Reid, as is well known, was best associated with the Finsbury Park mosque, and those associated with extremism there were definitely not TJ.  Asif Hanif, who carried out a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv, was definitely not TJ (when he was in England, he worshipped at Hounslow mosque, which is associated with the Bareilawi grouping, which is opposed to the TJ).  Proving that someone went on a jama&#8217;at outing or two does not mean that the jama&#8217;at encouraged them to participate in terrorism.  Muslims have access to other sources of teaching, particularly if they go to university.</p>

<p>He quotes one Marc Gaborieau, a Paris-based academic, who claims that the TJ&#8217;s aim is &#8220;a planned conquest of the world in the spirit of jihad&#8221;.  The rhetoric of jihad is sometimes used, but invariably in connection with their non-violent activities.  I remember watching a number of people volunteer to go off on various Tablighi activities, none of them remotely connected with violence, and the announcer talking of them &#8220;going in the way of Allah&#8221;, which could be said of going to fight but also of participating in any work which involves effort of some kind.  The use of the word <em>tabligh</em> is significant here: it means propagation, or preaching (the name is sometimes translated as &#8220;preaching party&#8221;).  He then cites Yoginder Sikand, who he claims is a Muslim (he is not), citing an anonymous sympathiser claiming that the TJ is preparing Muslims for &#8220;lesser jihad&#8221;, in other words, &#8220;physical warfare against the enemies of Islam&#8221;.  Whether this statement is true or not, the important issue is how they do that - because there is no evidence that they are providing weapons training, for example.  All they do is to take groups of (mostly) men out of their usual setting to spend a few days reading inspirational stories about the Companions (<em>radhi Allahu &#8216;anhum</em>) and perhaps doing a bit of basic study, while separating themselves from (some of) their usual worldly comforts.</p>

<p>He explains that the &#8220;distinctive thing about Tablighi Jamaat&#8221; is that they deliberately and carefully try to emulate the life of the Prophet (sall&#8217; Allahu &#8216;alaihi wa sallam), by such things as sleeping on the floor and brushing their teeth with twigs (as if they simply use any old twig, rather than a particular type of wood which has anti-bacterial properties).  Because the Prophet (sall&#8217; Allahu &#8216;alaihi wa sallam) was personally involved in 29 battles, this emulation, according to Craig, is inconsistent with not preaching jihad.  Besides the fact that the battles of the Prophet (sall&#8217; Allahu &#8216;alaihi wa sallam) were mostly aimed at fending off attempts to destroy the community, and Islam with it, or at combating armed, brutal religious frauds, the fact is that following the sunnah is something all Muslims aspire to to one degree or another.  The TJ happen to emphasise Islamic dress, coming as they do from the relatively liberal political environment of the Subcontinent, where it is possible for men to wear Islamic dress and not be presumed hostile to the state, as is the case in parts of the Arab world.  In his lame attempt to smear the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at with association with violence, he has instead smeared Muslims generally, demanding that the TJ be asked to &#8220;renounce the life of Muhammad&#8221; (<em>sall&#8217; Allahu &#8216;alaihi wa sallam</em>) before they can be trusted as a non-violent group.  The fact remains that what makes a group violent is what it does, and there is no evidence that the TJ has been behind any violent activity whatsoever, particularly in Europe.</p>

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<p>In this video, he talks about the funding for the mosque, which he claims will cost £100million or more, perhaps even £300million.  He claims that every Muslim he has spoken to &#8220;has no doubt whatsoever&#8221; that it will be funded by Saudi Arabia, and that its only the Saudis, &#8220;or rather the Gulf states, including Saudi Arabia&#8221;, that have the money for such a project.  This conveniently ignores the fact that the character of the other Gulf states differs greatly from that of Saudi Arabia: they are more liberal in their outlook, more traditionally Muslim as opposed to Wahhabi, and while, with the exception of Kuwait, they are dictatorships, they are much less socially repressive, particularly to women.  It is not &#8220;beyond doubt&#8221; that Saudi Arabia will fund it.  If this is a stumbling block, another donor could be found, which many Muslims (including myself) actually find preferable.  He then alleges that the TJ have a &#8220;track record&#8221; (a phrase he uses often), that their Dewsbury headquarters was funded by the Saudis through the Muslim World League, that it indicates some sort of link between Wahhabism and the Deobandi grouping of which the TJ are part, and that Shaikh Bin Baz was very warm towards them and suggested co-operation between Saudi Wahhabis and the TJ.</p>

<p>He then talks about a debate he had in Hyde Park (presumably he means Speakers&#8217; Corner, a notorious venue for pointless and fractious arguments over religion and sometimes politics) with supporters of the mosque, saying that we can have such debates in this country because Britain has a strong Christian heritage.  &#8220;You see, the Gospel of the Freedom of Jesus Christ leads straight on to social and political freedoms, and this country has its political freedoms because it has its Christian heritage,&#8221; he opines.  Of course, anyone who has studied the history of Europe knows that Christianity was never associated with political freedom until Christianity lost its hold on the state: there is a long history of religious persecutions, of mob violence (such as the &#8220;no-popery&#8221; riots in England), of anti-Semitism, of burnings of reformers as heretics, of mutual excommunication, and of repressive politics right into the 1970s in western Europe.  He then tells us that the Saudis do not permit churches to be built or women to drive - as if these facts should have any influence over how a mosque funded by them should behave!  He offers no evidence, of course; virtually everywhere in the Muslim world except for Saudi Arabia, women can and do drive cars, and many countries have placed restrictions on religious proselytism, not all of them Muslim countries (Greece and Thailand, for example).  Still, his attack on Saudi Arabia is based on the presumption that it is they, and not some other wealthy donor, who will fund the project, and this is not certain.  The Saudis are far from being the only oil-rich Muslims around.</p>

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<p>In his final video, The 2012 Olympics, Craig argues that the supposed aim of the mosque being &#8220;the hub of an Islamic quarter&#8221; is antithetical to the Olympic ideal of people of different races and religions coming together &#8220;in the name of sport&#8221;.  He argues that we should not want an Islamic quarter, any more than a Christian or American or Chinese quarter.  The fact remains that such districts already exist in London, the clearest example being that any Chinese person who desires easy access to Chinese food and company can easily head for Chinatown, for example, in Soho.  The districts around the Olympic village already have a high Muslim population, but Muslims coming from abroad to watch the Olympics (or to work at them) might not find the halal fried chicken and Indian food outlets of east London to their tastes.  I agree that having an Islamic quarter right next to the Olympic village is impractical, but then, the mosque is not being built in a residential area anyway, and the likelihood of the Olympics being a melting-pot for foreign tourists (most of them only here for two weeks) is slim.  People will come in groups, mostly from one country (indeed, the opening ceremony is likely to see competitors marching with their national teams, not just mixed in together), and may strike up conversations over beer or coffee but very few of them will make lasting friendships.  That is how London is already: it&#8217;s not a little village where everyone knows each other, it&#8217;s a big, impersonal city (something I have often heard people from northern England remark on: the lack of community compared to what they know, and I am talking about Muslims and others here).  If they come in a large group, the chances are that they will sit and eat and drink together, or with their hosts (who might well be of the same ethnic background, religion, or family, or all three).</p>

<p>Of course, many Muslims have reservations about this mosque.  I am not sure the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at are the right people to run a multi-national mosque for Olympic participants, spectators or workers: they are rather conservative and have a tendency to look down on Muslims who do not practise Islam their way - but then, after the Olympics are finished and the tourists gone, it will likely revert to the use that was intended when the Tablighis bought the land: as a community mosque and <em>markaz</em> - that is, if gentrification does not push the local Muslim community out.  I fail to see why a mosque should cost £100million to build, or even a tenth of that.  If they are going to spend masses of money, they should make the mosque beautiful, which the present proposal certainly is not - it&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.freshtechnology.net/science-mosque.php" class="broken_link">&#8220;iconic&#8221; modernist design</a>, and such buildings have a history of being <a href="http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1922328,00.html">detested by those who use them</a>, however many architectural awards they win (see <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/10/31/ugly_modernist_plan_for_olympi">earlier entry</a>).  (<strong>Update:</strong> the modernist plan referred to, by the Mangera Yvars architectural practice, was considered but has been turned down.)  However, this does not justify the use of smears and half-truths to deny a section of east London&#8217;s existing population their right to a community facility that they need.  The Tablighi Jama&#8217;at have had a <em>markaz</em> in London for years; they need a new one because it is too small for the number of people that come every week.</p>

<p>As for the Muslims who are supporting the anti-mosque campaign, the fact is that their concerns are sectarian, and go back decades.  Some of them would, if they were able, prevent the construction of any Deobandi or Tablighi mosque anywhere in the world; some of them regard the Deobandis themselves as hypocrites or even as unbelievers.  They know full well that the Tablighi Jama&#8217;at are not a security risk in this country, whatever they tell the media; they seek to curtail their activities because they dislike them for their own, mostly historical, reasons.  Muslims who are not blinded by sectarianism should oppose this unholy alliance and its bigoted campaign.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Monbiot, in today&#8217;s <em>Guardian</em>, on <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2037891,00.html">the fake consultations</a> which accompany the Olympic developments in east London: chiefly, the difficulties one had to go to in order to get copies of the plans, which included going through a website which, &#8220;(like everything to do with the Olympics) is plagued by technical glitches&#8221;, or paying £500 for a hard copy of the documents, or waiting a couple of weeks (out of six) for the library to do, or trying to get documents over the phone from someone who does not know what you&#8217;re talking about.  He also mentions that &#8220;regeneration&#8221;, while often justified in terms of benefit to local &#8220;poor&#8221; people, often drives them out when the rents and house prices go up.  (Also, see <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/08/30/railroading_east_london">this entry</a>, about similar goings-on over rebuilding one of the railways around Stratford.)</p>
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