{"id":278,"date":"2007-02-26T12:58:19","date_gmt":"2007-02-26T11:58:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/ijwp\/mt.php\/2007\/02\/26\/shaikh_nuh_keller_takfir_and_the_subcontinental_divide"},"modified":"2025-10-10T11:21:20","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T10:21:20","slug":"shaikh_nuh_keller_takfir_and_the_subcontinental_divide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/mt.php\/2007\/02\/26\/shaikh_nuh_keller_takfir_and_the_subcontinental_divide","title":{"rendered":"Shaikh Nuh Keller: takfir and the Subcontinental divide"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jinnzaman.blogspot.com\/2007\/02\/iman-kufr-and-takfir-deobandis-and.html\">Jinnzaman recently blogged<\/a> a lengthy article by Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim Keller on the subject of the rulings of <em>takfeer<\/em>, who is entitled to pronounce it, when and why, and how it relates to the infamous Bareilawi-Deobandi fitna:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/shadhilitariqa.com\/site\/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=37&amp;Itemid=20\">Iman, Kufr, And Takfir<\/a> (updated to point to new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shadhilitariqa.com\">Shadhili Tariqa<\/a> site).<\/p>\n<p>Also, Jinnzaman linked a <a href=\"http:\/\/basair.wordpress.com\/2007\/02\/26\/mistaken-takfir\/\">Deobandi response<\/a> by br. Hanif at <a href=\"http:\/\/basair.wordpress.com\/\">Basaa&#39;ir<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sunniport.com\/masabih\/showthread.php?p=7229\">a thread about it<\/a> on a pro-Bareilawi forum.  The common theme is that perhaps Shaikh Nuh is not the most qualified to talk about the issue as he doesn&#39;t speak Urdu but relies on his mureeds to translate things, and that if he did he&#39;d come down on <em>their<\/em> side.  However, Hanif&#39;s response is more reasonably-argued; the Bareilawi responses are the usual partisan raving you find whenever such matters find their ways onto online fora, which is why their discussion is banned on some (e.g. Deenport).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jinnzaman recently blogged a lengthy article by Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim Keller on the subject of the rulings of takfeer, who is entitled to pronounce it, when and why, and how it relates to&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3791],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-278","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-islam"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p17bgV-4u","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/278","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=278"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/278\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42113,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/278\/revisions\/42113"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=278"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=278"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=278"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}