{"id":2826,"date":"2011-01-16T19:18:09","date_gmt":"2011-01-16T19:18:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/mt.php\/2011\/01\/16\/whats-wrong-with-sleepovers-exactly"},"modified":"2025-10-07T23:32:58","modified_gmt":"2025-10-07T22:32:58","slug":"whats-wrong-with-sleepovers-exactly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/mt.php\/2011\/01\/16\/whats-wrong-with-sleepovers-exactly","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s wrong with sleepovers, exactly?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/images\/15-Little-Fiddler.jpg\" align=\"right\" style=\"margin-left: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px;\" title=\"Little Fiddler\" alt=\"Picture of little girl in a pink dress playing a fiddle\" \/>I saw an article by Amy Chua, the Chinese-American academic, in which she proclaims herself a &#8220;tiger mother&#8221; and tells the world that Chinese mothers (or maybe she means mothers from a particular group of immigrant Chinese Americans, I&#8217;m not sure) are superior to others.  She admits that not all &#8220;Chinese mothers&#8221; are actually Chinese at all &#8212; some are actually Korean, Indian, Jamaican, Irish or Ghanaian &#8212; so it&#8217;s more of a style of parenting than the way a particular ethnicity raises its kids.  It refers to a particularly strict, hothousing style of parenting in which kids are not allowed &#8220;frivolous&#8221; things such as sleepovers, computer games, TV, &#8220;playdates&#8221; or school plays, and have to master a musical instrument, specifically either the piano or the violin.  And they have to get straight A&#8217;s, all the time.  Note: an A- is a failure.<\/p>\n<p>The article (extracted from Chua&#8217;s book &#8220;Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother&#8221;) was published in the <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html\">Wall Street Journal<\/a>, and an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/lifeandstyle\/2011\/jan\/15\/amy-chua-tiger-mother-interview\">interview with her<\/a> was published in yesterday&#8217;s Guardian, in the Family supplement.  It actually reveals that one of her daughters actually rebelled (in public), leading to Chua back-pedalling on some aspects of her parenting methods.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The article made me smell a rat from the beginning, actually.  Where are all these Chinese math whizzes and musical prodigies?  I&#8217;m sure they exist, but they exist in other ethnicities as well.  It&#8217;s no secret that the Chinese minority in this country has among the best academic results, but the idea that they always get A&#8217;s is ridiculous.  After all, if it was that easy to get an A, then not every A would be an A.  And there is the small fact that there are plenty of Chinese in Europe doing menial jobs, or running restaurants (OK, it&#8217;s a skill, but you don&#8217;t need to be an academic to run or work in a restaurant).  Go to any Chinatown and you won&#8217;t find lots of Chinese playing violin concertos, you&#8217;ll see them selling food.  And if you value playing a musical instrument, why must it be the piano or violin, rather than the cello or the oboe?  You can&#8217;t have an orchestra only composed of pianists and violinists.<\/p>\n<p>Other writers in the WSJ (including parents and children who were brought up by Chinese immigrant parents) have pulled apart Chua&#8217;s arguments better than I can.  Hanna Rosin, in an article on WSJ titled <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052748703959104576082434187716252.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_newsreel_lifeStyle\">Mother Inferior<\/a>, counters that although people hothoused to master an instrument may achieve technical mastery, that doesn&#8217;t mean they will learn to enjoy listening to music &#8212; even the Chua women, she says, &#8220;rarely express pure love of music; instead they express joy at having mastered it&#8221;; one friend who had been raised similarly to the Chua daughters (albeit by German parents) came to hate classical music and has not picked up a violin in a decade.  <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052748703333504576080422577800488.html\">Another mother notes<\/a> that her dyslexic daughter put herself a punishing programme so as to learn to read, against her parents&#8217; advice, so Chua&#8217;s thesis that nothing is fun until you can do it, and kids will not learn on their own initiative but only because of parental bullying, is shown to be groundless.<\/p>\n<p>Then there are the other issues, such as what exactly is wrong with kids staying the night with a friend, or having one over to play?  I didn&#8217;t have sleepovers, as far as I can remember, as a kid (I hated staying at other people&#8217;s houses, even my aunt&#8217;s) but my sister did, and it didn&#8217;t do her (or her friends) any harm.  There can be some embarrassments such as if they wet the bed, but as long as it doesn&#8217;t stop them doing things they actually need to do (it&#8217;s actually possible to make friends with your kids&#8217; parents, you know, such that you can arrange that they will do their homework there), I fail to see why it&#8217;s something to be avoided altogether.  Kids have to have fun, rather than spending every waking moment learning to do something they will never particularly enjoy.<\/p>\n<p><em>(<a href=\"http:\/\/leeharps.com\/?p=738\">Image source<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I saw an article by Amy Chua, the Chinese-American academic, in which she proclaims herself a &#8220;tiger mother&#8221; and tells the world that Chinese mothers (or maybe she means mothers from a particular group&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[42,25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2826","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-arts","category-education"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p17bgV-JA","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2826","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2826"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2826\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41503,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2826\/revisions\/41503"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2826"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2826"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2826"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}