{"id":38481,"date":"2018-12-19T21:50:31","date_gmt":"2018-12-19T21:50:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/?p=38481"},"modified":"2025-10-04T20:06:50","modified_gmt":"2025-10-04T19:06:50","slug":"whats-alice-walker-doing-reading-david-icke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/mt.php\/2018\/12\/19\/whats-alice-walker-doing-reading-david-icke","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s Alice Walker doing reading David Icke?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/ms-magazine-walker-steinem-250x300.jpg\" alt=\"A Ms Magazine cover featuring Alice Walker and Gloria Steinem, from 2009\" width=\"250\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-38482\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/ms-magazine-walker-steinem-250x301.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/ms-magazine-walker-steinem.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/>Yesterday there was much indignation on Twitter and elsewhere that the <em>New York Times<\/em> had published <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2018\/12\/13\/books\/review\/alice-walker-by-the-book.html\">an interview with the novelist and poet Alice Walker<\/a> which contained a recommendation of a book by David Icke, the British public speaker best known for weird conspiracy theories with an anti-Semitic edge. That Walker has these attitudes is not new, but some people were very upset that one of their literary heroes whose books celebrate women&#39;s liberation and civil rights could be a bigot herself; in fact, she has been expressing these views since about 2013 (at least) and last year published a &#39;poem&#39; (if that&#39;s the word for a series of lines without any discernible rhythm) about Jews, Judaism and Zionism that uses well-rehearsed tropes about the Talmud, the classical Jewish commentary on the Torah. Yair Rosenberg&#39;s article, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tabletmag.com\/scroll\/277273\/the-new-york-times-just-published-an-unqualified-recommendation-for-an-insanely-anti-semitic-book\">&quot;The New York Times Just Published an Unqualified Recommendation for an Insanely Anti-Semitic Book&quot;<\/a> on <em>The Tablet<\/em>, has been widely tweeted on the subject but it contains one dubious claim: that David Icke is &quot;one of Britain\u2019s most notorious anti-Semites&quot; and &quot;one of the most influential conspiracy theorists in Europe, and certainly in Britain&quot;. He really is not.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->David Icke is not taken seriously enough to be a <em>notorious<\/em> anti-Semite. The fact that he has &quot;over 770,000 followers on Facebook&quot; means nothing as following someone does not mean approving of everything, or indeed anything, they say. In the 1980s he was a sports correspondent and appeared on the Saturday sports show <em>Grandstand<\/em> and was also a spokesman for the Green Party (they had four principal spokespeople in place of a leader), but is best known here for having claimed to be the &quot;son of the Godhead&quot; in the early 90s and predicting the end of the world by 1997. Although he subsequently admitted that this was &quot;not the real David Icke talking&quot;, his subsequent writings descended into the conspiracy theories he is now best known for. Essentially he is a national joke; his name is a byword for crankery and certainly many more people know about his claiming divinity than anything about his previous career. I was in my early teens when the whole controversy broke and my reaction was &quot;who?&quot;. I assumed his surname was spelled Eyke, the name of a village near the boarding school I was in at the time (then again, I had no time for football). For clarity, his name is pronounced Ike, as in Ike Turner.<\/p>\n<p>He is not a renowned writer or thinker who also has abhorrent views. He is not in the same league as GK Chesterton, Ezra Pound or Roald Dahl and certainly not of Alice Walker. I am sure many British people were bemused at hearing that someone like her would even read a David Icke book, let alone recommend one, because he has no stature whatever here. Yes, he does give public lectures and sells out a few concert halls here and there but they are not big stadia. Perhaps this is a sign of how popular his ideas are or perhaps they are people who remember him from his <em>Grandstand<\/em> days and just want to hear him, even if he is talking nonsense. A few years ago, during one of Tom Jones&#39;s comebacks during which he sang embarrassing songs like <em>Sex Bomb<\/em> which bore no resemblance to his old hits, I asked my mother why anyone listened to this stuff. She said, &quot;they just like Tom Jones; it doesn&#39;t matter what he&#39;s singing&quot;. I don&#39;t really understand seeing a performer whose material has changed beyond recognition from what you liked (then again, Tom Jones still sang <em>It&#39;s Not Unusual<\/em> alongside <em>Sex Bomb<\/em>), but given that his ideas about 12ft lizards (and his other theories) have not exactly gone mainstream, I cannot think of any other reason.<\/p>\n<p>Some of the commentary has focussed on Walker&#39;s past pro-Palestinian activism, including taking part in the 2011 flotilla to Gaza. The implication is that if you&#39;re against Israel in any way, it&#39;s a slippery slope to full-blown anti-Semitism. The simple answer to that is that some people are pro-Palestinian for its own sake, some because they are Muslim (or Christian) and some because they hate Jews and it&#39;s not always easy to tell the latter because they do not always reveal themselves until they have been around you for a while (Gilad Atzmon springs to mind, and being Israeli helped). However, being accused of anti-Semitism is an occupational hazard for anyone who defends Palestinians&#39; rights because to their enemies, anyone who does not share their hatred is automatically a racist, much as any media outlet that does not treat the Palestinians&#39; rights with the contempt they have for them must be guilty of bias.<\/p>\n<p>But much as it&#39;s possible to be a Zionist for essentially anti-Semitic reasons, the same is true of supporting Palestinians, and right now a lot of people are heartbroken that a writer they admired so much turned out to not only be a bigot, but an extremely ignorant one at that.<\/p>\n<p><em>Image source: Ms. magazine, licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (BY-SA) 4.0 licence, <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=47476755\">https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=47476755<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday there was much indignation on Twitter and elsewhere that the New York Times had published an interview with the novelist and poet Alice Walker which contained a recommendation of a book by David&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":38482,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"New post at Indigo Jo Blogs -- What's Alice Walker doing reading David Icke?","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[42,19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38481","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-arts","category-racism"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/ms-magazine-walker-steinem.jpg","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p17bgV-a0F","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38481","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38481"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38481\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40718,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38481\/revisions\/40718"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/38482"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38481"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38481"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.blogistan.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38481"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}